First tree on the moon!

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  innovstudio

  • 4 years ago

  with work, perseverance and research I could improve the presentation, I hope you like it

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     Contest Holder

     • 4 years ago

     Matias' #35 has added a construction vehicle, cool! Is that the silo for firing emergency oxygen capsules, to support Mars missions? A chain of emergency oxygen jetting along side, might come in handy. If not, then a batch of oxygen at mars when they arrive, would boost chances of a permanant Mars base.

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     innovstudio

     • 4 years ago

     There is a dome that distributes oxygen through selective ventilation.
     It is also built with minerals from the lunar terrain and anodized metal, which would greatly facilitate construction.
     What is the option that you like the most that I sent?

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  Contest Holder

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  Tonis' #36 looks quite self sufficent! Has wheels so in case mobility is required for bringing the farmed oxygen to a hub and trading it for a dose of CO2? If it can be replicated using mainly moon mined resources, that'll be cool!

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  Cobot

  • 4 years ago

  Please rate and leave feedback with chat for #36 Tree on the M⚫⚫n

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  Contest Holder

  • 4 years ago

  My 2 favorites as art pieces are Lesia D's #18 and Oscar E's #33 . I might try a hand at oil painting the winners entry! Matias L. delivered the most input so far, hmmm is it possible to award multiple entries? Anyone know?

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  Contest Holder

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  Thejomaya B. entry #32 tree hub is on a raised foundation. I never really thought about it, but direct contact with the lunar surface might sap the heat from the tree hub faster? There are a few other entries with the raised hub... didn't notice.

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  Contest Holder

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  Does anyone know how to add someone to chat? Gazi Farhan L. wants in on the forum before submitting... I'm kinda new at this.

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  innovstudio

  • 4 years ago

  Excellent!
  In my new proposals #28 , I put the aquaponic system to create a complete, simple and ideal ecosystem for the moon. And I also followed your advice to use an electric heater.
  I love how it turned out, I await your opinion, greetings!

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     Contest Holder

     • 4 years ago

     Looks awesome! whats the blue thing on top of the hyponics nursery? Also is that an astronaut on the horizon there?

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  innovstudio

  • 4 years ago

  What do you think?

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     Hmmm, how is the thermo gonna be produced to siphon into the geodesic double hull? youre gonna need some hefty solar panels the bigger the moonGreenhouse. Thats why a micro nuclear reactor would be the logical choice. A aquaponic system within the green moon house would be useful. And fish? A full on sustainable eco system? Not just farming trees for oxygen? Sounds pretty cool! And maybe a simple electric coil heater for the double hull would be more practical. Maybe a mixture of sciences from the FooDjinns, RaeDjinns.

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  innovstudio

  • 4 years ago

  That is! The low temperature of the moon doesn't affect the thermosyphonic principle at all. This principle is that the hottest air (even if it is cold) rises and the colder air falls, it is due to the difference of temperature and density.
  I am sure that it would work well, I also developed another option. # 24 it is an aquaponic system, to generate the first microecosystem on the moon.
  By condensing the air, the water in the resorvoir is produced. From that container it goes to the plants, the water left over falls into a fish tank. Fish produce nutrients that help plants grow, and plants provide minerals to fish.
  This would be the first micro ecosystem of the moon.

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  innovstudio

  • 4 years ago

  Great ideas Sir!
  I designed this other more complete #23 adding your proposals.
  At the top it has two streamers. Its function is to condense the air by means of the thermosiphon principle. The hot air goes up and when it cools it condenses. with this system the tree would be irrigate on the moon.
  Furthermore, I added a temperature sensor at the bottom.
  I would love to work with you in the future, we would be an extraordinary team!

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     • 4 years ago

     Hi Matias, I am replying to your entry #23 . Thermalsyphon is pretty cool, like a cpu heat sink? But its pretty cold in space, so it might be counter productive? I was thinking about maybe hiring the AirDjinns to conjure a gas mixture which heats up at high pressures and cools at low ones. A sensor within the habitat to thermomerate the temperature at 30 degs Celcius? If the temperature drops, then a pressure pump would pump gas into the space between the 2 spheres, making it hotter and vice versa

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  innovstudio

  • 4 years ago

  I was researching and putting that knowledge into this design.
  Firstly, a hermetic double glazed geodesic geometry so that it is more energy efficient than ordinary glass.
  Secondly a solid base and a structure that is maintained by gravity.
  In addition, the solar panel to generate energy rotates with its robotic arm, to take more advantage of the radiation.

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     Contest Holder

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     Hi Matias. The double glazed geodesic would definetely be stronger, thats a great idea. The space in between could be filled with gas that heats under pressure? Some sort of temperature moderator? I dont understand the base structure. Is it magnetically repelled? Do magnets even work on the moon? That'll ba an interesting experiment. A 1 kilo rock and a 1 kilo magnet weighed on earth. Then send it with an old timey scale to the moon. I wonder if the scale would stay balanced...

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  innovstudio

  • 4 years ago

  Hi! What do you thing about entry #22 ?

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  Contest Holder

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  Sooo... continuing with chucking stuff at the moon & using it to build stuff... I guess the the mass of the balloon would have to be quite a bit larger for efficiency? #How ridiculous?

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  SmoothMachine

  • 4 years ago

  Can you please reject the entries that are not 3d modeled ? like #4 #3 #12. Or you are okay with just pictures and not 3d modeling ? even the pictures in these entries are downloaded from other sites.

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     Contest Holder

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     Your right Mohcen, they should not be dlded from other sites. about 3D, is just one in many mediums to showcase an idea. I checked the original source for entry#12. Azuma Makoto's work is absolutely amazing and inspiring!

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  Contest Holder

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  Anyways I researched a bit about the water content in trees, and the consensus is that about 50% percent of trees are made up of water. Hmmm... so a water filteration system for a bonsai with limited root capacity, would deplete at a much slower rate... but the oxygen yield will also remain stunted. Ice though would remain frozen on its way to the moon. What about air balloons carrying ice blocks to the stall point of the balloon, then launching the ice block into space? I wonder how much force would be needed for the ice block to escape earths atmosphere. The counter force would send the balloon hurdling back to earth tho. The ice cube could then be retrieved by crab claw carrying space drone and trajectedly shoot the ice block towards the moon. Angled trampolines could pinball the ice cube to a stop.

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  Contest Holder

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  MD. Shahin A.'s entry has details on a water delivery system & lights, I completely overlooked lighting. The open top though... all the precious atmosphere would be wasted, no? Or is there a knee high atmosphere that I haven't read about?

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  Contest Holder

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  MD. Shahin A's entry has the camera & solar panel on rails with joints? Fascinating! And angle adjustable solar panels for maximum efficiency?

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  Contest Holder

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  Wow! Anas A That is really cool! Aesthetically stunning! The thing is, viablility... scientific viability, most of the components would have to be shipped from earth... which costs a shit ton 'o cash... the whole idea is to be able to eventually ship excess co2 from the Earth, print capsules, fill'm up with o2 from the trees, use 25% to get to mars another 25% to not smash into mars, regulate capsules to launch at closest point... cosmic pinball... by the time we can harness Jups hydrogen, the golilocks peeps would of maybe found a habitible new planet!

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     abdullahalanas

     • 4 years ago

     I'm not trying to fool anyone, you can see on my entry that i've linked the source of the images https://ibb.co/W6QYp9m

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     SmoothMachine

     • 4 years ago

     Good spotting, Good job Enes C.

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  Also the glass looks thick enough to hold 1 atmosphere... awesome!

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  Contest Holder

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  I think Lesia D's entry looks legit for a first tree! It it works and more trees are added, larger encapsulations that cover the original ones.. a mini forest!

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  Contest Holder

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  About silica not being available on the moon... I was wrong. I read a Nasa piece today and way back when they first went to the moon and brought back samples... Ilmenite, Pyroxene, and Plagioclase all contain silica! Whaddaya know! So with a mineral refinery plant and all that jazzy, a kind of glass composite could be made in space?

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  Contest Holder

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  Ummm, I just want to clarify that its just an idea... the prize is the right to develop it for all that its worth here, not legally binding I dont think. Anyways just a 15 dollars boost and a slap on the back. Dont dont want you all to put in a thorough effort, and be dissapointed. The fact is that the entries are looking way more than 15 dollars worth. I dont wanna be blamed for a accidental hoodwink is all.

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  Contest Holder

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  I think Muhammad S art piece captures the idea the best so far. Hmmm, but to make the sphere casing transparent would be tricky... I wonder if moon sand can be heated & cooled into glass?

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     Contest Holder

     • 4 years ago

     No coral, no sea shells, no silica?

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  SmoothMachine

  • 4 years ago

  Do you have a winer or are you still looking for new ideas ?

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     Contest Holder

     • 4 years ago

     Im gonna keep it open until closing day.

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  mariabourg

  • 4 years ago

  #4 https://gr.pinterest.com/pin/490540584390782795/
  #3 https://www.amazon.in/PURIFY-NATURAL-FICUS-Bonsai-Plant/dp/B07RP1NZC4

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  Contest Holder

  • 4 years ago

  There all very cool!

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  nextBillionaire

  • 4 years ago

  Good idea. But I did not understand what is required here. A game/ a 3d model or a real experiment?

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     Orcavia

     • 4 years ago

     good question ..

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     Contest Holder

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     A 3D model would be ideal. I know 15 dollars doesnt seem worth it... so, ummm the winner of the contest has the right to the project, can suss out the deets and resubmit the contest(s) in whatever way they choose. Yeah, if they want to turn it into a level in a game or something, that sounds cool!

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  sharif3dartist

  • 4 years ago

  what u exactly needed....explain it ..

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     I was thinking about what tree or plant would be the best. An evergreen? The blue spruce? But then radiation plays a big factor in space. Maybe a radiation resistant plant or tree from chernobyl?

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  Contest Holder

  • 4 years ago

  Its just idea for a fun project. Looking for artistic concepts . I hope people who can actually do it, see the different entries and pick the ball up from there. Thats all, just a spacehead here.

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  StuardQuinones

  • 4 years ago

  I think we can do this, please write us

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